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  • SA341F c/n 1338 preserved at Musée de l'Alat et de l'Hélicoptère (ALAT & Helicopter Museum), Dax

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    • SA342L c/n 1830 YU-HEC of Serbian Police during exercise held yesterday evening in capital Belgrade (Photo: Igor Salinger)

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      • Mean Machines: Part 2



        http://www.aviafora.com/forums/forum...1841#post11841

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        • Nice digital livery


          SA341G D-HMTC (cn 1014) in Dortmund on June 1986 (Photo: Ken Meegan)

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          • Well done!

            https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/englis...it#post5661259

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            • N341GG at Isle of Man EGNS in June 7th, 2019 (Photo: IOM Aviation Photography)

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              • SA342J YU-HES (cn.1057) as seen at Manston on 31st October 2020 (Photos by David Moth)




                SA341F2 ZU-RRW (cn.1369) as seen in South Africa NFI (Photo by Andre Venter)




                SA342M 4eRHFS (4e régiment d'hélicoptères des forces spéciales/4th Special Forces Helicopter Regiment) engaged in special ops




                SA341B RA-05709 (WA1184) as seen with heli-dog Baykal in early October 2020 (Photo courtesy of Avia member Kirill)




                SA342J(S) F-GGTJ (cn. 1473) as seen at Stapleford in March 2001 (Photo by Alan Meloy)


                Zis wrote: Nice digital livery
                That's because the flag of North Rhine-Westphalia, as with the flag of Hungary, Mexico and a few other places .. employs the colours of Italy!

                Zis .. grazie mille for covering for me over the past couple of days .. so much appreciated!

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                • Rotorspot
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                  I have no opinion about the colours (although I prefer red-white-blue and/or orange). Unfortunately the spelling of the registration on the digital helicopter is not correct.

                • Zishelix
                  Zishelix commented
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                  Well spotted, Jos 'the Hawkeye'!

              • Ecuadorean SA342L, photo taken in February 2018

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                • Savoia
                  Savoia commented
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                  Nice one Zis!

                  Was this being shipped to South Africa?

                • Helipixman
                  Helipixman commented
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                  Surely thats not great painting the exhaust to match the the scheme on the helicopter ? Is this for display only?



              • Gazelles at Stapleford on 23rd November 2020

                News from Stapleford is that these two Gazelles will take to the skies within the next 2-3 weeks.



                SA342J F-GCCZ (cn.1393) as seen at Stapleford in March 2001 (Photo by Alan Meloy)




                SA341B ZB668 (WA1942) as seen at Fleetlands in April 1994 (Photo by Alan Allen)




                Check out the latest Gazelle for sale on the GazMart

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                • Oh ! How they have changed

                  Two cockpit shots of instrument panels, first one F-ZWRA (02) and second is F-GDXX (1262)





                  Is there a Gazelle with a full glass panel ?

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                  • xbdt
                    xbdt commented
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                    First panel, strange it had already the 342 torque indicator, in fact a 342 indicator is the same except for the temp and alt dial preset (and instrument calibration of course).

                    The second panel is the US version with autopilot from Sperry.

                  • Savoia
                    Savoia commented
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                    Nice one Elipix!

                    Would like to see F-ZWRA's panel without those side panels attached.

                • Originally posted by Helipixman View Post
                  Is there a Gazelle with a full glass panel ?
                  I think this is the closest one.. ZU-RMZ panel



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                  • Good looking N505HA at Toussus le Noble in October 6th, 2020 (Photo: Bruno Muthelet)



                    Great result of rebuilding job!

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                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Almost certainly a new fuselage Zis.

                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      It seems Gazelles are rapidly becoming 'Trigger's brooms' !

                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Aye, tis bound to occur as the fleet ages.



                  • SA342L 12904 (cn.114) as seen at Niš Constantine the Great Airport 5th November 2006 (Photo by Pedja Stamenkovic)




                    SA342J F-GCCZ (cn.1393) as seen at Stapleford in March 2001 (Photo by Alan Meloy)




                    SA342J I-PTEC (cn.001) as seen in November 2020 (Foto di Mauro Antongiovanni)


                    More Gaz Panels per Elipix



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                    • xbdt
                      xbdt commented
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                      The weights for the tail fin are not lead but even heaver; I was told it was something-ium like osmium that is about twice as heavy as lead.

                    • Zishelix
                      Zishelix commented
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                      Osmium is twice dense than lead (22.6 kg/L - 11.3 kg/L)! Tungsten and gold are almost as dense as osmium (19.3 kg/L), so a gold bar in the tailfin can fix the problem as well
                      Last edited by Zishelix; 1 week ago.

                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Hmm .. 1kg of Osmium costs around USD 12,000.

                      Anyone got any cheap Gaz tail-sections for sale?



                  • The One That Got Away!

                    Today both Zishelix and myself were joined in bidding on a rare 16mm Vintage reel of film (900ft) showcasing Gazelles at Battersea heliport and footage of the Gazelles being manufactured. Sadly we were outbid at the very last second by someone who really seemed to want it and would not let go ! We wondered if that might be an Aviafora member ? However it seems the buyer is a vintage film enthusiast and will buy anything going ? Maybe for an archive ? Sad for us because we bid very well. Alas it was not to be this time.

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                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Gazelles at Battersea plural?

                      Is there any way to contact the buyer to possibly negotiate a digital copy?

                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      We have contacted the seller to see if he might pass our details on to the buyer !

                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Well done guys! Fingers crossed. 🤞



                  • SA341F2 N2MF (cn.1448) as seen at North Las Vegas Airport on 25th November 2020 (Photo by Houston Moore)




                    SA341F2 ZU-RNV (1608) as seen in South Africa NFI




                    N685ZB Leaves for South Africa


                    SA341B N685ZB (WA1994) being readied for shipment to South Africa in November 2020


                    WA1994's container




                    Military Fleets Culled in 2020

                    The French army’s combat helicopter fleet underwent major change, with its Aerospatiale SA341/342 inventory trimmed from 165 examples to 112.
                    https://www.flightglobal.com/flight-...141218.article

                    Look out for more ex-ALAT Gazelles coming onto the market in 2021.

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                    • Helipixman
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                      Looking at the vehicle lifting N685ZB and the container I hope it gets there in one piece ?

                    • xbdt
                      xbdt commented
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                      Hopefully an open-top container, otherwise it won't fit. Not sure if that is a good idea for the long trip over the salty sea.



                  • Anyone able to shed some light on present status of WA1692 XZ341?

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                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      As 1692 is one of the 'prized' mil Gazelles (due to her registration) it would be interesting to know where she ends up.

                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      This Gazelle went to Shawbury 12.4.06 and was stored there for quite a while. It then moved to Gazelle Depth Support Hub (GDSH) by road on 20.6.11 where it remained with them before being re-named Multi Platform Support Unit (MPSU). It was noted back at Shawbury 2014 and is there with AM & SU where it is currently rumoured to be for sale by tender or reduced to produce ! If the latter happens it would be a great shame.



                  • SA341G G-BBHV WA1096 (Photo by Elipix)

                    It seems as if Westland were able to find some closely-coloured paper with which to cover the lower portion of the cabin doors!

                    This photo is similar to a photo of G-BAGK posted in 2014. G-BAGK wore almost identical colours (though she had a white base coat instead of cream) and also had a dirty tail, though not as dirty as this one. Btw, allowing one's tail to get this mucky causes real problems with the paint. Better to clean the craft more regularly if one can.

                    This Gaz was built in 1973 and after a short period being registered to Westland, was bought by A. Smith (Culcheth) Ltd. of Lancashire who owned her from 1974 to 1978 after which she was sold to France where she became F-GBLK.

                    Regarding the above photo and in terms of aesthetics, this should be the maximum allowable size for a registration!

                    Elipix, some years back on the Nostalgia Thread we discussed this company (A. Smith Culcheth), but I don't remember what it was that we discussed, although I seem to remember they bought a number of aircraft. Can you remember anything about them?

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                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      Bravo Elipix! 👍

                      That would have made this Twyford's second Gazelle.

                      G-AVTE was the first Bell-built 206 on the UK register and the tenth overall delivered to the UK (in the summer of 1967). She was initially owned by BSR of Staffordshire before going on to A. Smith & co.

                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      Just to complete the history of G-AVTE it went through two more owners after Mr Smith and then went to SFT where it met its tragic end. On 25.9.83 a foreign military pilot was doing solo training when he flew it into a ridge on Mid Standard Hill near Galloway losing his life.

                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      Another interesting order in 1972 for Gazelles was by Air Gregory. They placed an order for 1 Gazelle and options for 2 more. At the same time Point to Point placed an order for 1 Gazelle (G-BAGJ United Marine). The Air Gregory order must have been cancelled ?



                  • Gazelle as seen at Stapleford on 27th November 2020




                    SA341B XZ347 (WA1713) as seen at Boscombe Down in June 1992 (Photo by Stuart Mitchell)




                    SA341B ZB671 (WA1958) as seen at Middle Wallop on 16th March 2000 (Photo by Stefan Szrama)




                    SA341G N341DT (cn.1110) departing Lotenhulle in Belgium on 26th November 2020
                    (Video courtesy of Avia member Kurt, Gazelle flown by Avia member XB)

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                    • BAGS in Kosovo NFI




                      SA342M (cn.1870) as seen at Middle Wallop on 14th May 1994 (Photo by Ray Barber)




                      SA341G F-GEST (cn.1113) as seen at Toussus-le-Noble on 11th March 2003 (Photo by Mike Kell)

                      Note that GEST is wearing something on her feet!

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                      • Rotorspot
                        Rotorspot commented
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                        Nice. Next to her is SA365N Dauphin 2 VT-MAA (c/n 6080) of Mesco Airlines, which became F-GMTR.

                      • Savoia
                        Savoia commented
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                        Grazie mille Jos! 👍

                        I was wondering about the aircraft in the background, so this is much appreciated.

                    • Does anyone know which Gazelle this is ? Or has it been seen on here before ? It is from an advert with ACS Aero India from January 2020 !

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                      • Originally posted by Helipixman View Post
                        Does anyone know which Gazelle this is ? Or has it been seen on here before ? It is from an advert with ACS Aero India from January 2020 !

                        Ex-French military SA341F fitted with a non-standard baggage door.

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                        • BATUS Gazelles as seen at Rocky Mountain House Airport in October 2017 (Photo by Simon Longworth)




                          SA341B as seen in Colchester on 13th March 2011




                          SA342MV F-MCXH as seen refuelling in Afghanistan NFI




                          SA341G(S) N901B (cn.1410) NFI (Photo by Lance)

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                          • Jakub Cikhart
                            Jakub Cikhart commented
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                            Great pics ! One question - why some British Army Gazelles has that 'pylon' under the upturned exhaust ? I never noticed that before. Thanks !

                          • Helipixman
                            Helipixman commented
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                            The BAG looks like the exhaust fitting is on a set of guide rails, maybe for a quick on/off fitment ?

                          • Savoia
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                            If I'm not mistaken then I think that one of Stefano's early ex-mil Gazelles had this arrangement fitted.

                            I did ask (many years ago) about the reason for this set up, and I believe it was Stefano who provided the response, but right now I can't remember what that was, but I'm supposing it was simply an alternative exhaust mounting.

                            I think this 'exhaust-sitting-on-a-box' design was exclusive to Westland, and of the various exhaust options available, I always felt this was the least attractive.

                        • It was G-CDXE that had a similar exhaust set up as per photo...

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                          • Savoia
                            Savoia commented
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                            That's the one, grazie Elipix. 👍

                            Looks like Nige with Stefano.

                        • Originally posted by Savoia View Post
                          If I'm not mistaken then I think that one of Stefano's early ex-mil Gazelles had this arrangement fitted.

                          I did ask (many years ago) about the reason for this set up, and I believe it was Stefano who provided the response, but right now I can't remember what that was, but I'm supposing it was simply an alternative exhaust mounting.

                          This mounting was fixed to rails on the upper surface of the tailboom. The purpose of this arrangement was to solve problems with cracking which had occurred with the original upturned exhaust as a result of the extra weight of the heat insulation material surrounding the exhaust.

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                          • Savoia
                            Savoia commented
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                            Bravo Stefano, grazie mille! 👍

                          • Jakub Cikhart
                            Jakub Cikhart commented
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                            Thanks for the explanation !!!



                        • SA342L1 YU-HEA (cn.118) NFI (Photo by Igor Salinger)




                          SA341B XW848 (WA1013) as seen at Middle Wallop on 25th August 1993 (Photo by Peter Davis) Assigned to 671 Squadron




                          SA342 RA-0682G in Russia NFI




                          Red Bull digital Gazelle




                          Gaz vs. F-16

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                          • Good morning. 3 new pics of Gulf Gazelles emerged. Two of 4173/138/AEH and one of 1296/124/BOT from gentlemen Michel Argouarch and Hugues Corbet. I asked for permission to use those pics on my site with proper credit, but was turned down from Mr. Hugues Corbet, on FB only. It is in the Anciens Combattants Guerre du Golfe.Armée de l'Air .DAGUET group on FB. I can send the FB links in PM if anyone is interested .... Thanks !

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