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  • Zishelix
    started a topic Shrieking Gazelles

    Shrieking Gazelles


    This thread is for the appreciation of the SA.341/342 series Gazelle helicopters of which I am an enthusiast.

    Over the years I have collected a considerable amount of material relating to Gazelles, some of which I will be pleased to share here with those who are interested.

    I will be happy to discuss anything relating to the history of the Gazelle (now almost almost 50 years old) as well as anything and everything relating to its operations around the world. I hope to meet other Gazelle enthusiasts along the way!

    Finally, the Gazelle produces a unique sound as a result of a harmonisation which occurs between the fenestron and the main rotor blades. This effect is sometimes known as "shrieking."

  • Savoia
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    Grazie XB e Elipix!

    Hopefully Jakub can confirm the tail number in white.

  • Helipixman
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    Think she is c/n 4183 AED an SA342M of 6eRHC/3

    You mention 132 for the side no ? If thats the number on the tail the second number looks like a 4 to me ?

  • xbdt
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    Looks like a 342 to me.

  • Savoia
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    SA341B ZB691 (WA2006) as seen at SPTA on 17th April 2018


    For Jakub ..


    F-MAED '132' as seen in February 1991 during Operation Daguet

    Jakub, do you know the construction number for this aircraft and whether she is a 341 or 342?

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  • xbdt
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    No still 13 blades but the airfoil is different (more wing shaped instead of knife shaped) and root bearings and hub is different.

  • Jakub Cikhart
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    In my French Gazelle hunt, I just discovered this, from 1991 Le Bourget aerosalon: SA-342M HOT 4084/81/BPG, with probably wrong loadout of 2 x HOT and 2 x Mistral

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  • Jakub Cikhart
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    XB, GREAT info, thanks a lot !! Regarding upgraded fenestron for 342 - does that mean different amount of blades ? Thanks !

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  • Savoia
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    Gazelle Support Manager Wanted

    Airbus Helicopters is seeking a Gazelle Support Manager to be based at Oxford in the UK.

    The successful candidate will be responsible for:
    • Management of service delivery performance (technical and logistics) in accordance with the Gazelle Support Contract
    • Representing Airbus Helicopters UK (AHUK) at various Gazelle support meetings in the UK and France
    • Liaison with the MoD at Abbey Wood
    • Liaison between AHUK and AH France
    https://ag.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/fr-...ger_JR10005297




    SA341F2 ZU-RNV (1608) as seen in Gauteng, South Africa in November 2019 (Photo courtesy of Jean-Pierre)

    Jean-Pierre's 'Gazelle Pushback System'!




    Melanie Oullion-Simon, owner of MOS Nutrition holds one
    of the nutritional bars she is supplying l'armée de terre
    Africa, November 2019

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  • Savoia
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    Grazie mille XB!

    I am sure Jakub will find this information most helpful.

  • Helipixman
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    Yep that's the place. Only been there once and sadly it was all locked up. The owner has a house just across from his garage on the main street.

  • xbdt
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    Not sure if there is a list but the main differences between 341 and 342 are:
    341:
    Astazou III engine (A: civil, B: export mil, C: french mil: N: UK mil.) 592 HP engine.
    MRRPM is 378
    Standard fenestron
    Hobson servos

    342:
    Astazou XIV engine (H: civil, M: mil) 870 HP engine, torque limited to 592 HP to the MGB.
    MRRPM is 387 as the Astazou 14 spins a little faster.
    Upgraded fenestron
    Samm more powerful servos (mostly with accumulators)
    updated instrument panel and warning lights

    341 and 342 share same airframe/tail boom, MGB, MRH, IGB, TGB, drive shafts, MR blades...

    during the years options became available like AP, standard on 342M and 342L (mil export).

    Regarding weaponry I don't know.

  • Savoia
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    Very nice Jakub.

    'Is there a list of differences between SA-341F1, SA-342L2 and M ? Thanks !'

    Perhaps Avia member XB can help?

  • Jakub Cikhart
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    Hi, new pics have emerged.

    This time Gulf war French Gazelle SA-341F1 1658/42/BOP from 5e RHC, JVN, Mistral 2 (HAP) with NAVSTAR (CRM 500).

    Is there a list of differencies between SA-341F1, SA-342L2 and M ? Thanks !

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  • Savoia
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    SA341C XZ939 (WA1750) as seen over SPTA on 7th October 2014 (Photo by Philip Stevens)

    Flying as 'Tester 73'.




    Yugoslav SA341H 12708 from the Milan Majersky photo collection, sent to us by Avia member Dalibor Jovanovic


    Elipix wrote: This is the Cheqair base at Tharston Industrial Estate, Chequers Lane, Long Stratton.
    Grazie Elipix! I managed to find an aerial shot of the landing site below:


    Cheqair/Stratton Motors base in Long Stratton, Norfolk. Home of G-GAZZ

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  • Savoia
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    That would be a nice shot to capture.

  • Helipixman
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    I have seen a recent report for Bourne Park... no less than 19 Gazelles were there. Some were pods only.

  • Savoia
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    Weekend Sortie to Bourne Park

    Over the weekend the Crabtree Warrior together with the RainbowStar Gaz were engaged in a sortie to Bourne Park.
    Photos courtesy of Stefano and taken on 9th November 2019.


    Prior to leaving Breighton


    The RainbowStar Gaz and Crabtree Warrior at Bourne Park


    Crabtree and Bourne Park Gazelles


    The Crabtree Warrior behind a line of Bourne Park Gazelles


    Sadly is 'seems' as if dear old XX406 has been abandoned .. again!




    SA341F2 ZU-RNV (cn.1608) as seen in Centurion, Gauteng Province, South Africa on 10th November 2019
    (Photo courtesy of Jean-Pierre)

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  • Savoia
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    Grazie mille Elipix, much appreciated!

    Re: the Cheqair name .. plus the fact that Roger is into cars and racing!

  • Helipixman
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    G-GAZZ is at the Cheqair base in Tharston Industrial Estate, Chequers Lane, Long Stratton. Note the address is probably where the name Cheqair came from.

  • Savoia
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    Cypriot Air Force SA342L's

    Today the Cypriot Air Force will host an open day at Andreas Papandreou Airbase in Paphos.

    This is an annual event which celebrates St. Michael, the force's patron saint. The highlight of the day will be an air display which will feature the force's Gazelles.




    Serbian Air Force Gazelle replacement .. the H145M as seen in Serbia in October 2019

    Within the next few years, the following countries have declared their intention to dispose of their Gazelle fleets: Britain, France, Montenegro and Serbia. Tunisia and Morocco may also follow suit, while Lebanon, Cyprus, Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Qatar 'seem' to be keeping theirs for the time being.




    SA341F2 ZU-RNV (cn.1608) as seen in South Africa in November 2019 (Photo by Jean-Pierre)




    SA341G(S) G-GAZZ (cn.1271)

    No further details on the above shot, but if anyone has an idea as to the location, please advise.

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  • Savoia
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    SA341G F-BXPG (WA1073) as seen at L'aérodrome de La Tour-du-Pin in Cessieu c.1980

    This aircraft was operated by Auxiair at Lyon-St. Exupery Airport in Lyon and was previously owned by Twyford Moors Helicopters of Southampton in the UK. WA1073 also flew in Italy as I-ATOM and now flies in Russia as RA-07822.






    SA342J(S) YU-HPZ (cn.1473) as seen at Peterborough Airport in 2019 (Photos by Sebastian Zytomski)

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  • Savoia
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    G-CBGZ and G-EZZL as seen at Ettington Park Hotel, Stratford-upon-Avon in 2013 (Photo by David Haines)

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  • Savoia
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    SA341B RA-05709 (WA1184) as seen at her home hangar near Bratsk in Russia on 6th November 2019

    Avia member Kirill has kindly sent this photo of 709 taken this morning in Russia. Bratsk is currently eight hours ahead of GMT.






    SA342L 12901 (cn.111) as seen at Kraljevo Airbase in Lađevci, Serbia on 2nd November 2019 (Photos by Ivan Bukvic)




    SA341F2 N341RD (cn.1501) as seen at Punta Gorda Airport in Florida on 2nd November 2019 (Photo by Hector Valentin)

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  • Savoia
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    Ouch! Yes, the outcome of any sort of emergency landing with that contraption would only ever be painful.

  • md600driver
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    Originally posted by Savoia View Post
    .. what a price to pay with such a fixed vertical boom! Clearly this was an experimental endeavour for which the installation of a hinge was considered too troublesome.

    Just wondering what would happen if the donk stopped? Autorotation would be a little dodgy with a minigun up your rear end!

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  • Savoia
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    Ha ha .. too funny! The only tactical advantage I can see with such a system would be its potential 360° coverage, but that would need to be coupled with some sort of sight system, and well .. what a price to pay with such a fixed vertical boom! Clearly this was an experimental endeavour for which the installation of a hinge was considered too troublesome.

    Do you think this was taken at Marignane?

  • Helipixman
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    Minigun Gazelle

    French Military Gazelle with fixed machine gun, and other fittings !

    When I first saw this photograph I thought that must be a hinged machine gun system as it hangs well below the skids ?



    Then I saw this photograph and its not hinged !



    Both photos from the Helipixman Gazelle collection

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  • Helipixman
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    Thanks Jos that is very interesting and I agree never seen a Gazelle registered in Finland. The fact that it is now registered to a trustee company, it could well be anywhere - so it's Italy then. One to look out for in the future and when we find out who actually owns it maybe they can shed some light on its days in Finland. I now wonder if they were both in Finland ?

  • Savoia
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    SA341G C-GUMH (cn.1259) as seen in Canada in the 1970's

    Belonging to Heli Voyageur of Val D'or, Quebec and seen in this photo with snow skis.




    SA342L 12901 (cn.111) as seen at Lađevci Airport, Serbia on 4th November 2019 (Photo by Ivan Bukvić)




    SA342MV F-MGBP as seen at Le Cannet-des-Maures on 4th November 2019 (Photo by Arnaud Jourdain)

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