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  • Hi Guys, I'm John from the USA, new to the forum, been a fixed wing pilot for 23 years, owned and flown 30+ planes, most were experimental, some ex-mil jet trainers, etc. A little while back I got into helicopters, primarily since I don't have enough land to build an airstrip, so we built a helipad on the farm last year. Owned an R44 for awhile, but always wondered if I was going to die in it. 2 friends have owned Gazelles, I flew one earlier this year, and last month put a deposit on Serial# 1994, formerly ZB685, I just reserved N685ZB for it's tail number.

    Any of you guys have any insight into it's history, use, is it even a desirable year/model? I don't have the logs yet, to even know what year it is, it's currently impounded at a US customs building, but we should have it out soon.

    Thanks for all the Gazelle info and support.

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    • Helipixman
      Helipixman commented
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      Hi John

      Congratulations on your Gazelle purchase and welcome to Aviafora. I may have some details regarding ZB685 and will have a look at the weekend.

    • xbdt
      xbdt commented
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      I know which one that is.

    • Helipixman
      Helipixman commented
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      I also know which Gazelle this is ! It was exported from the UK ex Everett Aero and went to Courtney Hood as far back as 2006 ? He was intending to do a long term rebuild, how far did he get ? If it was exported in 2006 wondering how has it now managed to become impounded ?? Look forward to new owner John sharing some photos with us when it is released.



  • Caro Giovanni, benvenuto in Aviafora!

    Glad to have you with us, welcome aboard!
    Great to hear of your interest in aviation and that you have taken the plunge and decided to buy a Gaz!

    Regarding your fixed-wing endeavours, it would be interesting to learn about some of the craft you've owned and specifically which ones you liked most. My late father had around fifteen different fixed-wing that he owned over the years including an Aermacchi AL60, a De Havilland Rapide, a De Havilland Dove, a Stinson Reliant, a Nord Noralpha, an Avro Anson and several others. He also had the privilege of having one of the first privately owned Beech D-17 Staggerwings in Europe.

    Owned an R44 for awhile, but always wondered if I was going to die in it.
    Yes well, thankfully you are still with us and perhaps with the Gaz on its way your R44 days may now be behind you - not that there's anything wrong with the R44 I should mention for the sake of any R44 enthusiasts!

    As with every craft, the Gaz has its quirks, so please take a read of this page which mentions the Gazelle's 'Tail Swing Bite', the tendency the aircraft has to want to yaw to the left.

    In the UK when the first batch of ex-military Gazelles came onto the civilian market, there were a rash of Tail Swing Bite accidents. Thankfully, over the years, with a greater awareness of this vulnerability as well as through improved training, these accidents have all but ceased, but it is something that the person who trains you should be aware of, specifically how to avoid it, and should the condition manifest, how to handle it.

    Having said that, I still haven't flown the Gaz .. but have promised to get round to it in the not-too-distant future!

    Not a great deal of info out there on your bird, other than that she flew with 665 squadron, but let's see if any of our members can add any further details.

    Please keep us posted as to what's happening with your new 'girl' and once she's cleared customs please drop a photo or two on the forum!

    Regards

    Sav

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    • SA342L 354 (cn.2197) as seen at Andreas Papandreou Airbase on 8th November 2019 (Photo by Alan Bushell)




      SA342J HA-LFH (cn.1775) at her Church Fenton hangar together with the Haelo Jet in December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Adriano)




      SA342M F-MGBF as seen passing Puy de Pariou in Chaîne des Puys, France in December 2019 (Photo by Flavien Dessertine)



      Tibetan gazelles seen foraging in the Haltent Grassland of Aksay Kazakh, Gansu Province, China on 30th November 2019

      These Tibetan gazelles (also known as goas) are a reminder that the Snow Gazelles shall soon be winging their way towards us!

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      • Standard Gazelle, Stretched Gazelle and now the Shortened Gazelle !!!

        12626 SA341 No.43
        Interesting its a SOKO Gazelle but shows type as SA341 on side

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        • Savoia
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          Ha ha .. a Soko fawn!

          AFAIK Soko still use the SA341/2 designator, only that their 341's are usually 'H' models and I think most of the 342's assembled were L1's.

        • Rotorspot
          Rotorspot commented
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          If this really is c/n 043, then its serial is/was 12814. To my knowledge there never was a Gazelle with serial 12626.

        • Helipixman
          Helipixman commented
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          Probably just ficticious markings put on a training aid then ?

      • Here is a data plate from a Mostar Gazelle Soko HN-45M Gama 2 (SA342L.1) for c/n 140 which is 12926

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        • Savoia
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          Lovely! Nice to see a Gaz with a manufacture date of September 1988!

          I wonder when the last Gaz was produced at Mostar?



      • SA342MV F-MGBX as seen at Étain-Rouvres Air Base on 7th May 2019 during the ceremony marking the change of command at the 3RHC




        SA341F2 ZU-RNV (cn.1608) as seen at Warmbaths Resort in Bela-Bela, South Africa (Photo by Jean-Pierre Lombard)




        SA341G(S) F-GIJR (cn.1407) NFI (Photo by Elipix)


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        • Originally posted by Helipixman View Post
          I also know which Gazelle this is ! It was exported from the UK ex Everett Aero and went to Courtney Hood as far back as 2006 ? He was intending to do a long term rebuild, how far did he get ? If it was exported in 2006 wondering how has it now managed to become impounded ?? Look forward to new owner John sharing some photos with us when it is released.

          It’s been impounded by customs for a while now.

          Courtney completed his rebuild and I believe he flew her too before selling her to a different person.

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          • coolcarsauto
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            As far as I know, it was purchased by an overseas buyer, who was shipping it to South Africa, but didn't have the correct paperwork. Been in a CA warehouse for a year I think. Not technically 'Seized' but detained and plenty of 'Storage fees' were owed to get it back out.



        • Refuelling at Church Fenton


          En route from Church Fenton to the Swinton Estate


          At the Swinton Estate near Ripon in North Yorkshire


          SA342J HA-LFH (cn.1775) Church Fenton to the Swinton Estate on 4th December 2019 (Photos courtesy of Adriano)

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          • Helipixman
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            Nice photos from Adrian, had to admit as I was scrolling down and saw the caption under the second photo, I thought Swinton Estate and had a flashback from the days when we used Yorkshire Helicopter Centres Jetrangers. When I got to the bottom picture I realised it was a far better location near Ripon. The Swinton Estate we used was an Industrial Estate called Swinton Meadows where they had a hangar. Memories, sadly company and hangar long gone, Geoff Day still flying I think.

          • Savoia
            Savoia commented
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            Ha ha .. yes imagine Adriano's Swinton Estate is probably a little better looking than the industrial estate you mention.

            Yorkshire Helicopter Centre .. is it from those days that you got your photos of G-OJCB? https://postimg.cc/wyrr0Ct2

          • Helipixman
            Helipixman commented
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            Yes it was the days when Lothian Helicopters used the Jetrangers G-OJCB, G-ODIL and one of the helicopters in the Dennis K sequence of SH being G-SHCC also owned by Yorkshire Helicopter Centre. They were all use on contracts during the week in Scotland and then Lothian got the use of them most weekends for pleasure flying.

        • Some Air2air pictures of N341DT taken on Dec 4th 2019













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          • Savoia
            Savoia commented
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            Wow .. as in just wow XB!

            Grazie, grazie, grazie !!!

          • Helipixman
            Helipixman commented
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            Amazing photos, just makes you wish you were there !



        • SA341G G-BBHW (WA1098) belonging to McAlpine as seen at Cranfield c.1980 (Photo by Steve Barnes)


          ZB685


          SA341B ZB685 (WA1994) as seen while in customs in the US (Photo courtesy of new Avia member John/Giovanni)

          The is my first time to see a BAG with skid fairings!

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          • SA342M HA-HSG (cn.3615) as seen at Nottingham Tollerton Airport on 10th November 2019 (Photo by David Kelly)

            Stefano seen here with the Crabtree Warrior. This was part of the 'dual sortie' with the RainbowStar Gaz (G-CDNO) to Bourne Park last month.

            I wonder if Signore Michael was driving the RainbowStar Gaz?

            ~ ~ ~

            Elsewhere on Avia .. join us in congratulating Avia member Kirill who has just taken delivery of his first Lama and which will accompany his Gazelle in Bratsk.

            Check out our FB page too.

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            • md600driver
              md600driver commented
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              Yes it was micheal

            • xbdt
              xbdt commented
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              or maybe Michael :-)

            • Savoia
              Savoia commented
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              Actually, it is really supposed to be spelt 'Michele' and pronounced Mi-ke-le!

              Stefano .. this is a great blessing you have encountered and we give thanks to God for it (for every blessing is a result of His grace upon our lives, at least according to Scripture). That you have flown in company with your son in two Gazelles. I'm not sure if this has ever happened until now in the rotary-wing world.

              And 'Michele' if you're reading, we're incredibly proud of you as for sure your Dad must have been when he looked across and saw you flying alongside, in fact I would say it is probably a day that your Dad will never forget.

              Stenafo, was this the first time for Michael to fly solo in a Crabtree Gaz, or at least cross country?



          • Snow Gazelles .. coming soon to a forum near you!

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            • SA342MV F-MGCK (cn.2180) as seen at Valence Chabeuil on 23rd February 2012 (Photo by Laurent Quérité)




              SA342L1 '354' as seen at Paphos Air Base in 2018 (Photo by Hilco Schigt)




              Avia member Anja with Serbian Air Force SA342L in December 2019




              SA341D G-VOIP (WA1792) as seen at Goodwood Airfield on 14th September 2019




              SA341H E7-VDH (cn.060) shutting down in Zalužani, Srpska

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              • After months of drought across much of South Africa, certain parts of the country have received a deluge of rain. As a result, the Hennops River in Gauteng Province burst its banks affecting ZU-RNV's home base. Below is the result:


                SA341F2 ZU-RNV (cn.1608) Centurion, Gauteng Province, South Africa in December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Jean-pierre)



                RNV moved to safety at Ultimate's heliport, in Waterfall, Midrand, December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Jean-pierre)

                Jean-pierre, we're glad it all worked out okay for 'RNV'. Our thoughts are with those whose homes and businesses have been affected by the floods.

                Gazelles in Water








                Graham Wood's SA341D G-DMSS (WA1089) as seen at Breighton on 3rd May 2004 (Photo by Steven Hadlow)

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                • N901B Back from Repaint

                  Crabtree Gaz N901B is back from her repaint. She's still in white and is seen below in the Crabtree hangar.


                  SA341G(S) N901B (cn.1410) at the Crabtree Hangar at Breighton on 10th December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Stefano)


                  Crabtree Completes Annual Inspection on 2-WMAN

                  Crabtree Gazelles have recently completed the annual inspection of 2-WMAN.

                  Poor weather over the Irish Sea combined with the owner's busy schedule meant the craft was roaded back to Ireland.


                  SA341G 2-WMAN (cn.1277) being loaded at Breighton in December 2019 return to Ireland


                  AAC Driver Reaches 7000 Hrs Flying Time

                  AAC QHI Colin Judge currently deployed with 29 BATUS Flight in Canada marked reached 7000 personal flying hours in March this year.

                  Colin joined the AAC in 1981 and passed 320 Army Pilots Course in 1989 before being posted to 651 Squadron in Hildesheim, Germany. He achieved his first 1000 hours on the Gazelle and had the privilege of reaching this first milestone with his father on board.




                  Colin with his family and a BATUS Gaz in March 2019



                  Our sincere thanks to Avia member Julien for the photos below. Merci Julien!






                  SA342MV F-MGAV 3964 (cn.1964) as seen at Chateau d'Augerville, Loiret, north-central France on 8th May 2019
                  (Photos courtesy of Julien)


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                  • SA341D ZB625 (WA1905) flying as 'Tester 73' as seen at SPTA in January 2011 (Photo by Philip Stevens)




                    More Gazelles Being Roaded

                    SA341G 2-WMAN (see above) wasn't the only Gaz being roaded this week.

                    Former British Army Gazelles XW897 and ZA771 were roaded from Grantham in Lincolnshire to their new homes. The word is that these have been bought by an Avia member.


                    SA341B XW897 (WA1178) as seen prior to departing Grantham in Lincolnshire in December 2019


                    SA341B ZA771 (WA1813) as seen prior to departing Grantham in Lincolnshire in December 2019




                    Check out the latest Gazelle for sale .. on the GazMart

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                    • Helipixman
                      Helipixman commented
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                      Will be interesting to see who the new owners are. Looking at the two very different forms of transport I suspect two buyers ? The number plate on the first truck looks foreign ?
                      Last edited by Helipixman; 3 days ago.

                    • Savoia
                      Savoia commented
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                      The transportation for XW897 doesn't give the impression of being especially suitable for extended haulage.



                  • SA342J(S) F-GGTJ (cn.1473) as seen at Cheltenham racecourse on 18th March 2004 (Photo by Ray Barber)

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                    • Originally posted by Savoia View Post
                      The transportation for XW897 doesn't give the impression of being especially suitable for extended haulage.

                      I think you will find they are going a long way away.

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                      • Savoia
                        Savoia commented
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                        I believe they have gone to an Avia member in what is for me 'familiar territory'.

                    • Originally posted by Savoia View Post
                      I believe they have gone to an Avia member in what is for me 'familiar territory'.

                      I think you may be correct.

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                      • SA341G N700SH (cn.1154) as seen in Lotenhulle, Belgium on 8th December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Kurt)

                        The 'Kurtcraft' seen here with members of the Kurt-fam in what might be described as a 'winter barbecue'. This is taking place at Avia member Kurt's recently refurbished hangar.

                        'What' (I hear you ask) is that behind the Kurtcraft? Well, believe it or not, it is none other than N505HA .. yes, she appears to have been rebuilt!

                        We have been promised further information about '505' as well as additional Belgaz news in the new year!




                        Unidentified Gazelle at Stapleford, December 2019




                        Serbian Air Force H145M in front of a Serbian Police SA342 in Serbia in December 2019 (Photo by Dragan Trifunovic)




                        SA341D ZU-HGZ (WA1728) as seen at the
                        Ultimate Helicopters base in Midrand,
                        South Africa in December 2019

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                        • Hi everybody ...

                          Helicopter Tug from AC Air Technology
                           

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                          • Dear Chetak, welcome to Avifora and thank you for the video.

                            As it happens, the developer of that ground trolley is a friend to one of members.




                            SA341F2 ZU-RNV (cn.1608) as seen at Centurion in Gauteng on 15th December 2019 (Photo courtesy of Jean-Pierre)

                            'RNV' is now back at her home base after the recent flooding in Centurion.




                            SA341D XZ931 (WA1728) as seen at Biggin Hill in 1986 (Photo by King Cobra)

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